Sunday, October 30, 2005

Hmmmm

Well, this is interesting.













You fit in with:
Humanism



Your ideals mostly resemble that of a Humanist. Although you do not have a lot of faith, you are devoted to making this world better, in the short time that you have to live. Humanists do not generally believe in an afterlife, and therefore, are committed to making the world a better place for themselves and future generations.


20% scientific.
100% reason-oriented.















Take this quiz at QuizGalaxy.com




I always pictured myself as a horrible rotten person who was only interested in himself. Odd. Perhaps I should reevaluate myself? Maybe tomorrow.

Saturday, October 29, 2005

Natural selection and evolution

What never ceases to amaze me is how some people can't get their heads around natural selection/evolution. With three simple, obvious facts, you can explain natural selection in its entirety.
  • Features are inherited from parents
  • Parents with certain features can be more likely to survive
  • Parents who don't live to maturity cannot have children.
The other thing is that creationism explains what MADE organisms, and says that they haven't changed. If you look at fossil records, you'll see that things have definitely changed. How can people say that bones taken out of the earth are all fakes?

Friday, October 28, 2005

Halloween Corrupts our Young Kids

I personally don't like Halloween that much. Never have. But when I heard that Underwood (a school in Newton) actually isn't celebrating it in school because "some people claimed the holiday offended their religious beliefs." I have to wonder... what does Halloween do to hurt anyone?

To prove my point a little better, I've looked up the origins of Halloween. It has roots in a Celtic celebration of the new year (5th century BCE). Romans later adopted the traditions and many years later, it was brought to the US by Irish immigrants in the 1840's. The original ritual involved the disembodied spirits of the dead coming back and inhabiting some living bodies so they could get to the afterlife. The living people would parade around so that the spirits wouldn't come back to haunt them.

Okay, how many people can seriously believe that Halloween will corrupt young souls? The modern day incarnation is kids walking around in fun costumes getting candy. It's a very benign and innocent holiday that doesn't do any harm at all. A quote from an Underwood parent:

"All I can say is what a shame. I watched the news this morning and am also glad my children don't attend there. First, saluting the flag was a controversy, now Halloween? Oh please! I understand we Americans have free rights and it is all being taken away by allowing everyone with religious issues to take over. This is not about religion for the kids, Halloween is about tradition and fun. Can't kids be kids anymore? What's next?"


What's next to go? Maybe Valentine's day will become too romantically heated and sacrilege to celebrate. It's ridiculous, it almost makes me want to go out trick or treating to defy these stupid people who think that Halloween is such a bad thing.

Check out the articles:
Halloween History & Controversy

Monday, October 24, 2005

The Million Dollar Ticket

I got one of these fake million dollar bills from one of my friends at school today. The front looks a normal fake bill, except in the bottom left had corner instead of "Treasurer of the United States" it says "Department of Eternal Affairs". Something's fishy...

So on the back side it's really different. There's a picture of the Supreme Court building and "IN GOD WE TRUST" is emphasized on the steps of the building. Not good. Here's the scariest part: there's writing around the edges, and (suprise, suprise) it's all about Jesus.

It reads:
"The million dollar question: Will you go to Heaven? Here's a quick test. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything, or used God's name in vain? Jesus said,'Whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her has commited adultery already with her in his heart.' Have you looked with lust? Will you be guilty on Judgment Day? If you have done those things God sees you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart. The Bible warns that if you are guilty you will end up in Hell. That's not God's will. He sent His Son to suffer and die on the cross for you. Jesus took your punishment upon Himself- 'For God loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.' Then He rose from the dead and defeated death. Please, repent (turn from sin) today and trust in Jesus, and God will grant you everlasting life. Then read your Bible daily and obey it. www.wayoftheMaster.com"
Uh huh.

First off, Everyone's lied, stolen and 'looked with lust'! One of my Die-Hard-Born-Again-Christian friends admits she's a habitual liar. That guy probably does it on a regular basis.

Second, "If you have done those things[comma?] God sees you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart." Geez, talk about bringing down someone's self esteem!

My favorite: "The Bible warns that if you are guilty you will end up in Hell. That's not God's will." Sure it's not. "Sorry little Timmy, I REALLY don't want to send you to eternal torture, but if you continue to lust over women and lie to your mommy, I'm going to HAVE to!"

"Then read your Bible daily and obey it." Ooh boy! Let's kill my entire heathen family!

Who's the author? Oh, of course. Kirk from www.wayoftheMaster.com I love this guy!

P.S. click on the way of the Master link, and on the front page you can see a small picture of bill in the bottom left corner. Aparently it's all part of the kit you can buy for only $99.99!

Sunday, October 23, 2005

Clarification

Okay, just to make sure I've got this right. I want to know about your definitions of atheism. Like what specifically don't you believe in.

Example:
I don't believe in a biblical interpretation of God, as in, that guy with a beard who micromanages and controls our everyday lives.

I don't believe God is a physical or spiritual omnipotent reality either.

What I do believe is that "God" is an ideal and a moral standard to which we hold ourselves. I'm a religious humanist. To me, "God" is merely a useful term to describe an idealism that hopefully humans want to strive toward. To be godly instead of know "God."

The purpose of life is to understand yourself and your relationships with other people and with nature. Whether or not you believe in God is irrelevant; one should just attempt to be godly. This is still a Jewish theology that's widely accepted in more liberal movements.

My point being, it's highly possible that the more a-religionistic of us have condemned religion as being a horrible thing without properly looking at all of its more flexible aspects. Atheism and religion can coexist.

Saturday, October 22, 2005

A Realization

I don't want to steal the spotlight, but I have to jump in before I forget.

I just realized something while I was driving home tonight, over the debate of the same-sex marriage amendment that is about to go to vote in Texas. I was running through the arguments that the other side might use, and then it hit me. Something that Christians sometimes say is that the Constition is based upon Christian ideals. No, I still know that they aren't right. The older Christian ideals differ alot from more modern ones. Its not against the law to work on the Sabbath, its not illegal to express ideas against church ideas anymore. This is because that the Christians ideology has been assimilated (some of it anyway) with the Constitution. This means that Christians will see their modern ideas in the Constitution, though the ideas of Christians at the time aren't really there.

Starbucks Is Not Infallible

Starbucks began in August a campaign called "The Way I See It" which featured quotes on theur cups from well known people. This is all good and dandy, and some of the quotes are indeed spiffy, almost uber-spiffy. An example would be a saying from poet and philosopher Noah benShea reading "Do not kiss your children so they will kiss you back but so they will kiss their children, and their children’s children."

But that's not really what this is about.

As with all opinions, some are offensive to some people. One such cup that was pulled from Baylor University's Starbucks coffee shop said “My only regret about being gay is that I repressed it for so long. Don't make that mistake yourself. Life's too damn short." People that would take off shelves something like that are not really people I would want to spend time with. I, in my childish idea of the goodness of all mankind, am shocked that people like that exist. But that too is not really what this is about.

Coming in 2006, a quote from the Rev. Rick Warren explicitly mentions God:
You are not an accident. Your parents may not have planned you, but God did. He wanted you alive and created you for a purpose. Focusing on yourself will never reveal your real purpose. You were made by God and for God, and until you understand that, life will never make sense. Only in God do we discover our origin, our identity, our meaning, our purpose, our significance and our destiny.
My response to that is disgust. Starbucks can put those those things on its cups, and they shouldn't be taken away, that's one of the great things about this country. That doesn't abate my disgust. This is really the first bad thing that starbucks has done in my opinion. Granted they're replacing the town coffee shop, but their product is certainly worthy of buying.

I thought I'd bring this to everyone's attention, Starbucks is not infallible.

Not that I'm going to do anything about it, their coffee is just too damn good.

Friday, October 21, 2005

Sermon on the Mount

There are in the scientific world, some true great people. I'm not just talking about the people who make discoveries, but the people who convey our message. One of those people is Sidney Harris, a cartoonist. He has drawn some of the most amazing science cartoons I have read. And this is his sermon from a scientist about "Genesis":


Preacher:Brothers and sisters, at the time of 10^-33 seconds after the big bang, the heat was enormous!
Crowd Member: Verily! It was over 10^33 degrees!
P: Matter and anti-matter arose!
CM: Halleluja- They annhilated each other!
P:And the universe was filled with particles!
CM: Amen! Quarks!
CM: And Gluons!
CM: Yea Leptons!



hehe.

He also published a hilllarious cartoon that can be typed out here

. <--- The Universe before the Big Bang (actual size)

Sidney Harris is a great scientific mind. Here is my salute to him.

Tuesday, October 18, 2005

See the light, yo.

So there's a contest. This is the first draft of my entry:

"And the LORD spake unto his disciples, commanding, 'Thou shalt boil thine Holy Noodles, and stir them three times hitherto; four shall not be the number of stirs you stir, nor two. Unless, of course, thou shalt stir unto three times shortly thereafter. And then you shall hurl thine Holy Noodles unto thine heathen enemy, in His Noodliness's mercy.'" Noodleonomy 24:16-24:17

I once deserved to have Holy Noodles hurled at me. In fact, I probably do now. Hell, maybe everyone deserves to have Holy Noodles hurled at them; aren't we all sinners?

Ah, but some of his sinners have indeed seen the light, and lo, it is Noodly. It was not long ago that I was first touched by His Noodly Appendage. He touched me in my sleep. I was dreaming, as usual, of penguins. As I dreamt of sliding down snowy slopes with my furry friends, I tripped…over a meatball. In my dream, I looked into the sky, and behold! His Noodliness was reaching towards me! Then I woke up, and saw that actually––well, that's a different story.

Of course, I was first a skeptic. But I was soon bogged down by the mass of evidence there is for His Noodliness. I was naturally swayed by the ('coincidental') universal appearance of pasta throughout history. However, I was tipped over the edge when four-thousand year old noodles were discovered in China. And they were, as the prophecy said, rolled from dough of millet grains! And I quote:

"Behold! When the LORD brings the Earth to a simmer, and the sauce melts, shall the LORD's son be discovered. And lo! He shall be of no taxonomic group, as the LORD had not created taxonomy when he gave birth to his son. And lo! The phrase 'gave birth' is a general term, and shall not be interpreted to assign a specific sex to the LORD; his Noodliness may very well have impregnated the earth through nonsexual means, or maybe caNoodled with some sort of easily-seduced female being." Pastalms 137:2-137:3

How can anyone deny this eyewitness testimony to the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? As usual, the only excuse for non-belief is non-education. The heathens should all be ashamed. They should be forbidden from EVER eating Ramen noodles. No! Angel-hair pasta! No! Linguini! Why, let us forbid them from ever consuming ANY sort of comestible produced by rolling and cutting dough, or, as in some cases, forcing dough through holes in a plate, known as a "die." Yes! Let that be the course of action we take! And while we're at it, let us hurl Holy Noodles at them!

Well, I don't want to be labeled as a firebrand. All I want is equality; and for me to have more of it than others. Ramen.

Monday, October 17, 2005

WWJB?

Why do Christians seem to get all the attention? [link]

That and other pressing questions drew 135 Christians to Southern California this weekend for a national conference billed as the first-ever for "God bloggers," a growing community of online writers who exchange information and analyze current events from a Christian perspective.

The three-day conference at Biola University marked an important benchmark for Christian bloggers, who have worked behind the scenes for years to spread the Gospel and infuse politics with religion.

Saturday, October 15, 2005

The Funniest Joke

There are some damn funny jokes out there, and religious ones are often the funniest. The website Ship of Fools recently held a contest for the funniest religious joke, and the results are hilarious.

The Christian website showed a surprising fondness for black humour about their faith, or lack of it. "We were surprised that Christians sent such offensive jokes. We didn't think they had it in them," said the editor of the site, Simon Jenkins.

There were two categories: funniest joke and most offensive joke.

Here are a few of my favorite runner ups in the top ten of the two categories:

In the offensive jokes section:

Jesus walks into a motel, throws a bag of nails on the counter and says, "Can you put me up for the night?"


A Catholic priest, a Boy Scout leader and a lawyer take some boys out on an adventure trip. On the flight over, there is engine trouble and the plane is about to go down.

"We have a problem", says the pilot. "There are only three parachutes!"

The Boy Scout leader suggests they give them to the boys.

"Screw the boys," shouts the lawyer.

"Is there time?" asks the priest.


Here one from the funnies:

St Peter decides to take the day off to go fishing, so Jesus offers to keep an eye on the Pearly Gates. He is not sure what to do, so Peter tells him to find out a bit about people as they arrive in Heaven, and this will help him decide if he can let them in.

After a while, Jesus sees a little old man with white hair approaching who looks very, very familiar. He asks the old man to tell him about himself. The old man says, "I had a very sad life. I was a carpenter and had a son who I lost at a relatively young age, and although he was not my natural child, I loved him dearly."

Jesus welled up with emotion. He threw his arms around the old man and cried, "Daddy!"

The old man replied, "Pinocchio?"
And finally, we have the winner of the Top Ten Funny Jokes:

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump. I ran over and said: "Stop. Don't do it."

"Why shouldn't I?" he asked.

"Well, there's so much to live for!"

"Like what?"

"Are you religious?"

He said, "Yes."

I said, "Me too. Are you Christian or Buddhist?"

"Christian."

"Me too. Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

"Protestant."

"Me too. Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"

"Baptist."

"Wow. Me too. Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?"

"Baptist Church of God."

"Me too. Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?"

"Reformed Baptist Church of God."

"Me too. Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?"

He said: "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915."

I said: "Die, heretic scum," and pushed him off.
For a complete list of both categories, go here.

I'm glad Christians are just as ready to make fun of themselves as we are, it gives hope that they are capable of questioning their own beliefs. Jokes are a great way to look into another culture, and I suppose when you look past all of the horrible things religion has caused over the centuries, it becomes the ultimate victim for humor.

Wednesday, October 12, 2005

Something that happened today

This is a really, really short post. This introduction is only to make it longer.

This evening, my mom said, "Would you like to go to services with me?" She was referring to the night-before-yom-kippur services, aka Kol Nidre. I say no. My dad says, "C'mon, you know he's an atheist." Thanks, dad. Then my mom says, "Don't say that! It's Yom Kippur!" What the hell?

Monday, October 10, 2005

Living on a Single Philosophy

A question that I've gotten a lot is: How can you be an atheist Jew? It seems totally impossible. It's really not impossible at all; here's the way I think about it.

If you tried to live your life by a single moral, would you be able to do it? Let's take the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would like done unto you. Suppose I lived my entire life just by following that moral until one day when a lie just slips out inadvertently. What do I do then? I don't want people to lie to me, but according to my one and only moral, it's their prerogative.

Basically, I don't feel that I can live my life without having a more than one basis in philosophy. Just as a good research paper needs many good sources and not just one source, philosophy in my mind, requires the same thing. Without having knowledge or a decent understanding of other philosophies, how can you accurately choose your own? The previous post does touch upon this topic slightly.

I don't feel like I can live without religion. And by religion, I mean a set of moral values that happen to come from religious doctrine. However dated the doctrine may be, there's some good lessons to be learned in there. Like during Rosh Hashana when we read the binding of Isaac, where Abraham is so zealous, he's ready to kill his son. I realized that it really is bad to believe blindly in something where there's no proof. Quite a different message from the one that the Rabbi wanted me to take away from that service.

That's the beauty of this whole thing. I've taken the best of both worlds. Or rather, accepted my history as a Jew and just left God out of it.

So my point is, philosophy is much stronger when it's drawn from multiple sources because
you're getting a more objective view of the world and of other people's philosophies without necessarily compromising any of your own personal beliefs.

Sunday, October 09, 2005

Religious indoctrination of children is nothing short of brainwashing

If I had a nickel for every time I have uttered that phrase. . .well, I say it a lot. It's frustrating how so few people understand what I mean.

Children are impressionable. If parents teach their children something when they're very young, it will stick. Look at Santa Clause: How many young children in America do you think are convinced that Santa exists?

The same goes for religion. Parents, for some strange reason, are allowed to teach their children that one religion is better than all others, and raise them with it. So many American children believe in a god simply because their parents do, and because their parents sent them to Sunday School, or Hebrew School, or whatever. When a three year old is brought to church and told that god loves him/her, he/she is going to get sucked in.

For example, I have a theist friend who said he started going to church at a young age. When I questioned him, he went on about his god's powers, and how much his god loves him. At one point he even admitted omnipotence is an illogical idea, but that doesn't matter if his god is omnipotent.

Similarly, I have a friend who told me she started going to church around the age of three, and is a rather firm Catholic. She says that indoctrination of kids is not brainwashing. . . "it's religion." Obviously, faith suspends normal social rules.

Sadly, it's going to be a looooong time before anyone in power recognizes that it is a bad thing for parents to raise their kids with a religion. The only thing children can do about this is spread the word themselves.

Fides

As an atheist and supporter of science, I have been told time and again by theists that science is a religion. They inform me that scientists put faith in their instruments' ability to function, and have faith that their instruments are in fact telling them the truth, blah blah blah, and so on.

Well, those statements are right. Science does require faith. But what it does not require is blind faith, one of the most dangerous things in existence.

If I am a meteorologist, and I'm setting up my tools in a new place, I have faith that I am doing my job correctly, and not damaging the instruments. However, I will have previously set up said instruments in other locations. I have experience, and have observed my anemometer working in the past. Thus, since I have my experience to go on, I am not believing blindly that I will succeed in setting up the weather station.

Similarly, if my barometer tells me that the air pressure is going down, I have faith that it is correct. However, if a storm follows shortly thereafter, I will have confirmation that my barometer is functioning properly.

Religion, on the other hand, requires blind faith. Nobody has observed a god creating the earth, a flood enveloping the planet, Lot's wife turning into a pillar of salt, or some carpenter being crucified. Theists place trust in a book that was written thousands of years ago, after being orally passed down through generations of people. They suspend all logic and reason for the sake of eternal salvation, as promised by the aforementioned book. They kill other people for the sake of eternal salvation. Religion is the ultimate idiocy.

Friday, October 07, 2005

Da Bible IN TXT (^_^)

Great news for all you IM speaking religion junkies out there, the Bible is in TXT. That's right, you heard me. All 31,173 verses have just been translated into IM speak by the The Bible Society in Australia. Now you can download the holy texts for free onto your cellphone. . . AND understand them.

It begins:
In da Bginnin God cre8d da heavens & da earth. . .
Michael Chant, a representative of the Society, says his son spent six weeks translating the entire Bible into txt messages. About 30,000 txt messages to be precise.

In an interview with the French news agency AFP, Chant said that "It's a logical step. Our aim at the Bible Society is to get the Bible out there among the people and this is a very effective way of doing it."

Here's the punch line: it's free! It's all free. The entire of the holy texts is now just one click away.

This is funny, like really funny. It's just another example of religion changing to fit the wants and needs of its suppliers of money. Like this. If this trend continues, God will be soon be wearing an afro and platform shoes.

You know, when it's not causing untold devestation and ruining the lives of nonconformists, religion can be pretty entertaining.

Much thanks to Seth for finding the info for this.

I'll Stand Up for you God!

The biggest party is when you get through the gates of heaven... because you'll be eternally living with GOD


96% OF TEENS WON'T STAND UP FOR GOD...
REPOST THiS iF YOU'RE ONE OF THE 4% WHO WILL


Wow, I really don't think there are that many people that can truly explain atheism. Great stuff ain't it?

Thank you myspace bulletins for being so amusing.

Wednesday, October 05, 2005

Morality in Choice

One of the common perceptions of God is of this omnipotent being who micromanages human life. Herein lies the first problem in all religion. "Is God watching me all the time, like when I'm in the shower? Do I have free will? Does God punsh me for thinking bad thoughts?"

If there is one religious person who honestly believes that were are punished for every single bad thought in our heads, I'd love to hear from you. The implications of that are incredibly huge.

God punishes you when
  • you want to commit suicide
  • you swear
  • you laugh at others' suffering
  • you get into a fight with a friend or sibling
  • you make a sarcastic comment about your peers
  • etc etc
If you seriously believe that God cares about every one of these "sins," large or small. I ask you, does God really care? Is God pissed off at you because you did a bad thing, or do your religious superiors tell you that God is pissed so that you decide to become a better person. God is a threat, a method by which people can be brainwashed to do the "right" thing according to your specific religious doctrine.

C'mon people, do we really need a God figure to start thinking about our daily actions? Do we need to have the threat of eternal damnation dangled in front of us in order to choose the right path? I say no. People can make their own choices. Before any of us even were aware of the "existance" of God, we were choosing a course of action. The morality of the action is irrelevant; it's the fact that we can make choices and determine ourselves how moral they really are.

So I guess you could say that the choices we make are both good and bad, it's all relative. If you need the guidance of God to make your choices, get a little self-confidence please.
We're all going to "hell" anyway.

Tuesday, October 04, 2005

Common Contradiction


There is a common contradiction in Christian belief. Most Christians that I have talked to recently, claim that their Christ came to repeal the old laws enforced in the Torah (first five books of the Bible). Well, I've found a verse that defeats this common misconception.

Matthew 5:17, 18- "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the old law or prophets; I have come not to abolish, but ot fufill. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter will pass from the law until it is accomplished."

I always remind my Xtian friends when they speak of Christ repealing the old laws of this verse, so they know what their own Bible actually says.

Anyone know anymore verses that contradict current Christain beliefs?

Seeya later,
Mesoforte Nebulous

Monday, October 03, 2005

Another Murdering Fanatics

Apparently, according to one judge, A preist killed two people back in '02 becuase somebody found out he had molested children.

Why is is becoming more and more common place to hear about preist or pastors killing and molesting people, or religious fanatics blowing themselves up in subways or bombing abortion clinics?

And why don't you hear about Athiests doing these kind of things?

The impossibilities of God

There is no proof of God, everything that God apparently does can be explained through science, and everything that God does that cannot be explained through science is told in a book that was written by a bunch of murdering fanatics centuries ago. Even what we know as the basis of the Christian religion can be easily disproven. A prime example is God's omnipotence.

God is omnipotent, right?

The definition of Omnipotent as defined by Dictionary.com and Wikipedia:
Having unlimited or universal power, authority, or force; all-powerful. - Dictionary.com

Omnipotence
(literally, "all power") is power with no limits or inexhaustible, in other words, unlimited power. Monotheistic religions generally attribute omnipotence only to God. Theists hold that examples of God's omnipotence include Creation and miracles. - Wikipedia
There are a few big problems with omnipotence, mainly the fact that it is impossible.

To be omnipotent, a God
  • must be able to do anything
  • must know everything
  • must not be 'good' or 'evil'
  • must be worthy of our worship

There are some things that are just impossible. I'm being totally serious here. It is impossible to add two plus two to get five, it is impossible to create a rock so heavy that the creator himself cannot lift it, and it is most definitely impossible to lick your elbow (believe me, I've tried).


If God knows everything, he knows the future. More specifically, he knows his future. If he knows his future, then he knows what he will do next, and cannot change it, meaning he has no free will, meaning that he is not omnipotent.


I think the matter of good and evil has been said best by David Hume:

If the evil in the world is intended by god he is not good. If it violates his intentions he is not almighty. God can't be both almighty and good. There are many objections to this, but none that holds since god is ultimately responsible for the existence of evil. Besides, if only god can create he must have created evil.
Many might say that Satan created evil, but if Satan can create, who's to say that he didn't create the universe? And if he created evil, God didn't create it, meaning God didn't create everything.
Oh, and another thing God did not create: himself.


From my readings of the Bible, I have found a lot of stuff about God. Much of it is good, but there is also a good quantity of bad stuff. One example is Job. I won't go into detail, but the Book of Job is essentially the story of the greatest servant God has ever seen, and how God, through peer pressure from Satan, competely destroys Jobs life to prove that his faith was as good as it was.
Another example is how God keeps on asking people for foreskins. What's with that?
I, at least, am convinced that this God is not a God worth worshipping (and it doesn't matter if the good outweighs the bad, because God cannot do bad, but he did, you see?).

But if there is a god worth worshipping out there, he, she, or it has not yet made contact. If it is a god that is worth worshipping, then it would be worshipped, therefore it would contact us to inform us of it's worshipability. But it has not, and so is not worthy of worship. If, on the other hand, it cannot contact us, then it is not worth worship either.


I conclude this anti-proof with a simple test:

If God is out there, then pray to him, and ask him to give you proof of his existence immediately. If he does not, then he either does not exist or doesn't want to reveal himself. If he doesn't want to reveal himself to you, then he is not worth your worship. If he does give you proof, then you should email me at aeger.kingdomofheathen@gmail.com, and tell me about it. If I don't believe you, it means that God couldn't foresee that I wouldn't, and so cannot tell the future, and so cannot do everything, and so is not worthy of my worship. Try it.

Thank you for your time.



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